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Frequently Asked Questions
Where are the cars currently located?
"Home" for our cars is the Delaware-Lackawanna Railroad in Scranton, Penn. Pullman City of Lima is in Scranton, and our other cars are at Midwest Locomotive in Kansas City, Mo. Previously, Diner 741 and City of Lima were being restored at Ozark Mountain Railcar in Hollister, Mo.
Can I see the cars in person?
At the current time, the cars are all on private property, and are not accessible by the public. When completed, the cars will be placed on public display several times throughout the year. We will try and update this website with photos of the cars as the restorations continue.
IMPORTANT: For safety considerations, there is no access—neither to ELDCPS members nor to the general public—to our cars at this time. The cars are located in a working railroad yard and shop facility where railroad equipment and locomotives are subject to unannounced movement at any time, it is not safe to allow access. This to ensure safety. Any accident or personal injury in trying to access our cars on railroad property would have severe repercussions for ELDCPS, and could effect our ability to store or continue the restoration on railroad property.
It is our intention to make the cars available first to our members and then the general public at scheduled intervals, during and after the restoration.
Please respect our request, and be governed accordingly.
Who is paying for the restorations?
The work is made possible by the generous support of the public sector; private foundations; our members and supporters through direct donations; and merchandise sales from the ELDCPS store. ELDCPS is federally-recognized 501c3 not-for-profit educational organization, and all funds raised by ELDCPS go towards the restoration of our cars and development of educational programs centered on the cars.
Why do you own a Nickel Plate Road sleeper?
City of Lima and other Nickel Plate Road passenger cars were an integral part of the Lackawanna's (and later, EL's) marketing strategy. The DL&W only ran as far as Buffalo, N.Y. The Nickel Plate ran from Buffalo to Chicago and St. Louis. By partnering their services, both railroads were able to provide passenger services competitive with railroads like the Erie, the New York Central and Pennsylvania... something that they would otherwise not have been able to provide.
We were offered City of Lima as a donation in 2003, and graciously accepted. Not only did we receive a car in great condition, we received a car that was a regular part of both the DL&W and Erie Lackawanna's long-distance trains from 1950-1963 in Hoboken-Buffalo-Chicago through-service.
Why purchase Diner 470 if you are not going to immediately restore it?
ELDCPS was originally formed to acquire Diner 470. When American Orient Express outbid ELDCPS for the car in 2001, we proceeded with alternate plans and pursued Diner 741. We then proceeded with our full commitment to restoration efforts on Diner 741.
Several years later, the AOE decided they no longer needed Diner 470, and offered us the opportunity to purchase Diner 470 from them. We concluded that such a significant part of Lackawanna history should not elude us again. We also decided it would not be prudent to split our limited resources among several cars at once. Therefore, immediate work on 470 would be limited to stabilizing the car for storage; any further restoration would be pending completion of Diner 741. Our members agreed, and donations to cover the costs of acquiring Diner 470—and moving it halfway across the country—flowed into ELDCPS in a gratifyingly short time. We were able to make arrangements for safe long-term storage of the car, and in so doing allowed ELDCPS to both focus its efforts on the completion of Diner 741, and have Diner 470 in place for restoration as circumstances allow.